Replacing 100 % chemical choline chloride - Raw material summary

Published: February 22, 2022

Summary

Liptosa newsletter. Monthly Report RAW MATERIALS SUMMARY We have started the year 2022 with the same instability and volatility of raw materials suffered during 2021. In this volume of our newsletter, we would like to tackle/mention interesting alternatives to raw materials, which allow an affordable supply and provide added advantages. Let's talk about choline. The most comm...

NATURCOLIN

NATURCOLIN of Liptosa is a source of natural choline for all premixes concentrated and feed production, 100 % bioavility, replacemet of choline chloride.

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Ewa Sujka

Elanco

13 de abril de 2022

Dear Dr. Piotr Stanislawski 250-300g of our product may replace 1kg of choline chloride 60%. What concerns the cost of the product - the cost of product per metric ton of feed will not be higher than of cholin chloride.

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Dr Piotr Stanislawski

dsm-firmenich

14 de abril de 2022

Ewa Sujka It means that 600 g CC we can replace with 300 g your product; the concentration is double. How to describe it in LCF program? As choline or choline chlorid? The equivalent content in 1 kg product (1200 g CC in 1 kg product?).

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Ewa Sujka

Elanco

20 de abril de 2022

Good day Dr. Piotr Stanislawski 1 kg of choline chloride with concetration 60% can be replaced by 200-300 grams of Naturcolin.

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Megan Edwards

Integral Nutrition

16 de junio de 2022

Dr. Piotr Stanislawski This is a good question. I had the same issue as I formulate to a choline value. In the formulation software you must assign a choline or choline equivalent value. CC60% is 52% Choline. If we assume Herbal choline to be 2 x potency it means it is 104% Choline. It does look silly (but so does adding a total calcium value on a phytase matrix). Perhaps in the future we will have digestible choline figures? There is some evidence to support this bio-equivalency in poultry, but there is still a lack of evidence for pigs. I hope Liptosa will publish more evidence on Bio-equivalency soon.

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Dr. Fiodor S. Marchenkov

Kronos -Agro private company

7 de septiembre de 2022

Megan Edwards Dear Mrs.Megan, thanks for your opinion. I'm biochemist by my education, Ph.D. My first question to choline replacers was about choline content in herbal product. It is practically zero. It is not clear for me, what is the name of active substance containing at herbal cholin replacer? Short answer - one word.

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Mr. Pravin Jaiswal

20 de abril de 2022

If I am not wrong you want to say that your product is 3X of CC 60%.

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LIPTOSA

NATURCOLIN

NATURCOLIN of Liptosa is a source of natural choline for all premixes concentrated and feed production, 100 % bioavility, replacemet of choline chloride.

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Viorel Marculescu

Barentz

20 de abril de 2022

This product would be interesting in Russia...if you can export there.

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Ewa Sujka

Elanco

21 de abril de 2022

Hi Viorel Marculescu, Thank you for the suggestion, well noted :-)

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Nelson Ruíz

Nelson Ruíz Nutrition LLC

22 de abril de 2022

Dear Ewa Sujka, may I know what is the chemical structure of Naturcolin? Thank you.

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Ewa Sujka

Elanco

22 de junio de 2022

Good day Nelson Ruiz, Phosphatidylcholines (PC) supported by botanical extracts with sparing effect to PC

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Mete Aydın

YEDI VET TARIMSAL FAA. TIC. VE LTD. STI

2 de mayo de 2022

Do you have a distributor in Turkey?

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David Revilla

LIPTOSA

3 de mayo de 2022

YEDI VET TARIMSAL FAA. TIC. VE LTD. STI. thank you very much for your interest in our product. Could you please send me your email so I can write you directly? thank you in advance.

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Mete Aydın

YEDI VET TARIMSAL FAA. TIC. VE LTD. STI

3 de mayo de 2022

David Revilla,mete.aydin@yedivet.com

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Saad Amjid

12 de mayo de 2022

David Revilla chsaadamjid7@gmail.com this is my email.

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Muhammad Mubasher

9 de julio de 2022

Dr.m.mubashar@gmail.com

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Arian khorshidi

16 de septiembre de 2022

Khorshidi711@gmail.com

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diwakar tiwari

13 de junio de 2022

David Revilla I am interested to know about the product could you please share the details in my email diwakar.tiwari2020@gmail.com

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Gemunu Widyaratne

20 de junio de 2022

Is this product available in North America?

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David Revilla

LIPTOSA

20 de junio de 2022

Gemunu Widyaratne, thank you very much for the interest in our product. Unfortunately, the product is not registered yet in North America.

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Muhammad Salman Akram

Sis chemicals

21 de junio de 2022

Give scientific background for your product. Just saying a herbal mixture is not enough.

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David Revilla

LIPTOSA

22 de junio de 2022

Muhammad Salman Akram, please be so kind to provide us your email address and our Area Manager will contact you. Thank you!

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Luis Fernando Vergamini Luna

Opta Alimentos e Insumos

23 de junio de 2022

Is the NATURCOLIN available in Brazil? If possible, I would like to have more tecnhical information and trials, to support the usage. luisluna@allegrolf.com.br Best regards,

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Ewa Sujka

Elanco

24 de junio de 2022

Good day Luis Fernando Vergamini Luna,
Our technical manager will contact you by private message in order to send you additional info,
Best regards

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Murat BAYAR

24 de junio de 2022

David Revilla I am interested to know about the product could you please share the details in my email : muratbayar1@gmail.com

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LIPTOSA

NATURCOLIN

NATURCOLIN of Liptosa is a source of natural choline for all premixes concentrated and feed production, 100 % bioavility, replacemet of choline chloride.

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Alvaro Dubois

Cargill

24 de junio de 2022

Dear Dr. Ewa. Is this the same product formerly know as BioCholine? Thank you.

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Javier Gonzalez Foretic

Nuproxa

1 de julio de 2022

Alvaro Dubois Dear Alvaro, no it is not. Is a different product.

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Ghulam Habib

29 de junio de 2022

Yes. It would be interesting knowing how much of the chemical cholin we can replace with natural herbal choline.

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Luc Goethals

Sanluc International nv

30 de junio de 2022

It's experimentally not easy to determine which share of the added chemical choline you can replace by natural sources. We have ran several experiments at European Universities and Research Institutes and the outcome was very inconsistent. The problem is that one has to work with choline deficient control diets, if not, few will be seen. In our trials with a normal control group (no added chemical choline, no added natural one) and besides a chemical and natural group, many times we didn't see any difference at all between the three groups. This would mean indeed that in well balanced diets, extra choline is not that essential. Trials were done in broilers and layers. Maybe for other animal species it's different. Of course from such experiments, one might conclude that you can replace ALL synthetic choline by Natural alternatives.

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Ewa Sujka

Elanco

11 de julio de 2022

Luc Goethals,
we had similar experience, in experimental farms it is quite common that negative control group doesn´t show a significant difference to trial and positive control, however it doesn´t mean that the choline (doesn´t matter if synthetic or vegetal source) is not needed in farm animal diets. This is the reason why we always perform trials under different conditions and scenarios of experimental and commercial farms.

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Vinay Kulkarni

Optima Life Science Pvt. Ltd.

30 de julio de 2022

Luc Goethals Yes , you are 100 % correct. If natural choline product can perform both structural and functional role of Choline, it's possible to replace synthetic Choline chloride. And moreover such products should perform in choline deficient diet. It is observed that such natural products perform better than synthetic Choline chloride as we are avoiding TMA related issues.

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Nisar Muhammad Khan

6 de octubre de 2022

Luc Goethals Thanks sir Your comment is no doubt very important and informative , leading us to an idea of getting rid of synthetic or other choline addition, spending on this nutrient without any benefit.

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Nisar Muhammad Khan

5 de julio de 2022

A number of Trials will be needed before using Naturcoline as choline chloride replacer, as blindly trusting such products is not looking ethical.

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LIPTOSA

NATURCOLIN

NATURCOLIN of Liptosa is a source of natural choline for all premixes concentrated and feed production, 100 % bioavility, replacemet of choline chloride.

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Pawan Kumar Mudgil

Regen Biocorps

12 de julio de 2022

Total fat content of various diet may differ, can that affect the quantity of choline required in that diet, if yes then, may be that could be reason behind inconsistencies in trials. That means requirement can not be ruled out butTotal fat content decide the requirements.

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Ram Singh

13 de julio de 2022

Choline removes fat from the liver. Aflatoxin contamination in poultry feed results in fat accumulation in liver. Under such conditions, choline is required to be added in diet. Dr Ram Singh Bibyan

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Nabil Tanios

14 de julio de 2022

Excess of choline chloride in ration of commercial laying hens produce a refused taste of eggs, for that we can’t open the amount of choline according to fat content in liver.

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