Replacing 100 % chemical choline chloride - Raw material summary
Published:February 22, 2022
Summary
Liptosa newsletter. Monthly Report RAW MATERIALS SUMMARY We have started the year 2022 with the same instability and volatility of raw materials suffered during 2021. In this volume of our newsletter, we would like to tackle/mention interesting alternatives to raw materials, which allow an affordable supply and provide added advantages. Let's talk about choline. The most comm...
this product is very interesting
were can i buy this product from in Canada
am very interested in trying it in my 32000 bird organic layer operation
thanks mike
Dear Ahmad Fayez Tayeh Hamdan, It is not only about choline content but also about its bioavailibility to the animal. 250-300g of our product may replace 1kg of choline chloride 60%.
Syed Farjad Zaidi
Dear Syed,
Please be so kind and indicate whre are you based, so we may indicate how to fined the nearest distribution point.
All the best
What is the equivalent of your product vs 100 g choline ( or choline chlorid) and price indication for 1 kg of your product? Other way we can not compare it
Dear Dr. Piotr Stanislawski
250-300g of our product may replace 1kg of choline chloride 60%. What concerns the cost of the product - the cost of product per metric ton of feed will not be higher than of cholin chloride.
Ewa Sujka It means that 600 g CC we can replace with 300 g your product; the concentration is double. How to describe it in LCF program? As choline or choline chlorid? The equivalent content in 1 kg product (1200 g CC in 1 kg product?).
Dr. Piotr Stanislawski
This is a good question. I had the same issue as I formulate to a choline value. In the formulation software you must assign a choline or choline equivalent value. CC60% is 52% Choline. If we assume Herbal choline to be 2 x potency it means it is 104% Choline. It does look silly (but so does adding a total calcium value on a phytase matrix). Perhaps in the future we will have digestible choline figures?
There is some evidence to support this bio-equivalency in poultry, but there is still a lack of evidence for pigs. I hope Liptosa will publish more evidence on Bio-equivalency soon.
Megan Edwards Dear Mrs.Megan, thanks for your opinion. I'm biochemist by my education, Ph.D. My first question to choline replacers was about choline content in herbal product. It is practically zero. It is not clear for me, what is the name of active substance containing at herbal cholin replacer? Short answer - one word.
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Mr. Pravin Jaiswal
20 de abril de 2022
If I am not wrong you want to say that your product is 3X of CC 60%.
YEDI VET TARIMSAL FAA. TIC. VE LTD. STI. thank you very much for your interest in our product. Could you please send me your email so I can write you directly?
thank you in advance.
Is the NATURCOLIN available in Brazil?
If possible, I would like to have more tecnhical information and trials, to support the usage.
luisluna@allegrolf.com.br
Best regards,
It's experimentally not easy to determine which share of the added chemical choline you can replace by natural sources. We have ran several experiments at European Universities and Research Institutes and the outcome was very inconsistent. The problem is that one has to work with choline deficient control diets, if not, few will be seen. In our trials with a normal control group (no added chemical choline, no added natural one) and besides a chemical and natural group, many times we didn't see any difference at all between the three groups. This would mean indeed that in well balanced diets, extra choline is not that essential. Trials were done in broilers and layers. Maybe for other animal species it's different. Of course from such experiments, one might conclude that you can replace ALL synthetic choline by Natural alternatives.
Luc Goethals, we had similar experience, in experimental farms it is quite common that negative control group doesn´t show a significant difference to trial and positive control, however it doesn´t mean that the choline (doesn´t matter if synthetic or vegetal source) is not needed in farm animal diets. This is the reason why we always perform trials under different conditions and scenarios of experimental and commercial farms.
Luc Goethals
Yes , you are 100 % correct.
If natural choline product can perform both structural and functional role of Choline, it's possible to replace synthetic Choline chloride. And moreover such products should perform in choline deficient diet. It is observed that such natural products perform better than synthetic Choline chloride as we are avoiding TMA related issues.
Luc Goethals Thanks sir
Your comment is no doubt very important and informative , leading us to an idea of getting rid of synthetic or other choline addition, spending on this nutrient without any benefit.
Total fat content of various diet may differ, can that affect the quantity of choline required in that diet, if yes then, may be that could be reason behind inconsistencies in trials. That means requirement can not be ruled out butTotal fat content decide the requirements.
Choline removes fat from the liver. Aflatoxin contamination in poultry feed results in fat accumulation in liver. Under such conditions, choline is required to be added in diet.
Dr Ram Singh Bibyan
Excess of choline chloride in ration of commercial laying hens produce a refused taste of eggs, for that we can’t open the amount of choline according to fat content in liver.