Discussion created on 03/07/2022

Gizzard and proventiculus

A case from 32 days old broiler with swollen and fatty liver, swollen kidney and hydropericardium alone with this lesion. Daily mortality 12-15 birds (fz: 3500) and in increasing rate.Please suggest the dx & Rx?

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Danka Maslic-Strizak Danka Maslic-Strizak
Veterinary Doctor
March 7, 2022

To exclude enteroviruses and the presence of leukemia and Marek's disease.

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Mohamed Swelam Mohamed Swelam
diploma degree
March 7, 2022

Danka Maslic-Strizak May be severe mycotoxins

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Mohamed Swelam Mohamed Swelam
diploma degree
March 7, 2022
May be severe mycotoxins
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Danka Maslic-Strizak Danka Maslic-Strizak
Veterinary Doctor
March 7, 2022

Mohamed Swelam In any case, all dead birds should be checked, and food should be sacrificed a little and controlled a lot.

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March 7, 2022
Mohamed Swelam Sir, done 5 birds pm and the problem was same. What about IBH?
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Mohamed Swelam Mohamed Swelam
diploma degree
March 8, 2022
Shiva BhusalI IBH mainly affect chicks at 2-3 wks with main lesion mainly in liver and somewhat kidney with out effect on proventericulus and gizzard but adenovirus can affect proventericulus and gizzard and lead to gizzard errosin
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March 8, 2022
Mohamed Swelam thank you Sir.
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Tahir Naseem Tahir Naseem
M Phil Pathology
March 9, 2022
Check crop and proventriculus for any fungal growth. Because it may happen in case of candidiasis.
Provide the birds with Acidified Copper sulphate@1g/2 litre of water and Magnesium Sulphate @ 1g/litre of water for three days
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March 10, 2022
bad pellet quality and feed toxicity
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March 14, 2022
Hydropericardium rings of Adeno virus involvement.
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March 21, 2022

Shiva Bhusal, Sir

Did the birds have any respiratory manifestation?

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March 21, 2022
Dr Ahmed Elbestawy , No sir.
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March 28, 2022
This is the challenge I have faced many time with experienced of Mycotoxicosis with Adenoviral infection
IBH also related to kidney swollen but liver liver is mottled with enlargement
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March 28, 2022
Dr Azimul Haque what treatment would be effective in such case sir?
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Nabil Tanios Nabil Tanios
prof. Poultry Diseases
May 13, 2022
Proventriculitis could be the causes virus eg. Reo adeno, IBD, IB virus. could be bacterial origin eg.
clostridium or other causes as biogenic amines,copper sulfate toxicity and mycotoxicosis.
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May 17, 2022

There have been recent issues with proventriculitis due to sodium bicarbonate contaminated with flouride.

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May 19, 2022
Might be due to adenoviral and or Reoviral involvement if you are getting similar findings in all other birds
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Ertugrul Yakisik Ertugrul Yakisik
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine
May 19, 2022
Hi everybody, in this case I see enlarged of proventriculus with feed and shrunked gizzards which are empty. May I ask firstly, do you make fasting program, and do you use fine feed or bad pellet quality ? If both no, we can focus other factors such as mycotoxine and especially Adeno virus.
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Nabil Tanios Nabil Tanios
prof. Poultry Diseases
May 19, 2022
Ertugrul Yakisik
Mash feed could enhance in older age of broilers proventriculitis by indirect ways as stasis of feeds could increase Hcl
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Claude Toudic Claude Toudic
Technical Manager
May 19, 2022
There are probably several factors.
2 main culprits:
1) infectiuous "proventriculitis" caused by a mix of more or less identifieed virus and bacteria
2) good pellet quality made of very fine mash. That means high feed intake but very poor control of the feed flow in the upper gut and no development of the gizzard muscle. This has probably an effect on the dilatation isthm section.
This factor is easier to fix than preventing early chick contamination, especially in deep litter production systems.
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June 20, 2022
Hi Guys,

Anybody else has experienced biogenic amines causing proventriculus to become flaccid or enlarged?

There is also a similar Proventricular Dialation disease caused by Avian Bornavirus? How is the Biosecurity of the sheds?

https://wildlifehealthaustralia.com.au/Portals/0/Documents/FactSheets/Avian/Avian%20Bornavirus%20and%20Proventicular%20Dilatation%20Disease%20Nov%202013%20(2.3).pdf
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June 25, 2022
Yes
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