Discussion created on 12/19/2014

Mycoplasma combined with Salmonella in rearing

Hi everyone, I have a farm with 20,000 laying hens which are 16 weeks of age. Two weeks ago, an outbreak of mycoplasma emerged with high mortality (70-80 birds per day) and now Salmonella has been confirmed by lab with a mortality of 200 birds per day. From your experience, which combination of antibiotic has given you the best results? Antibiogram is underway, but I must start medicating. Thank you

Mike Gabler
Veterinarian
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Dr. Zoltan Friedman Dr. Zoltan Friedman
DVM Poultry Specialist
December 20, 2014
Enrofloxacin is agood solution for Mycoplasma end Sallmionella
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December 20, 2014
For mycoplasma give tiamuline treatment level 03 days then start with gentamycine injection im.
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Dr.imran Maan Dr.imran Maan
Specialist in Animal Nutrition
December 21, 2014
Dear,
In 16th week or more age we have to treat in safe mode
1. Add tylosin in feed
2, add organic acids in feed
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Aoun Khan Aoun Khan
general manager production
December 21, 2014

At present, treat flock with Florfenicol for 3 days, organic acids must also be given in water. If pure Florfenicol is used 20-30 gm per 200ltrs of water, use tylosin tartrate in feed for 2-3 days after every 4 weeks for complete protection of the flock. seversge system must be guarded strictly use dettol (chlorxylenol ) as hand dip after using washroom. foot dips of phenols should use animal's source of protein in poultry feed must stop as they are source of salmonella in birds. 

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Juvy Lago Juvy Lago
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine
December 22, 2014
Medicate orally with tylosin or tiamullin or enrofloxacin for 5days. 2days after in-feed medicate oxytetracycline for 7days because MG tend to re-infect the flock.
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Dr. Arshaq A Ramzee Dr. Arshaq A Ramzee
Veterinary Doctor
December 22, 2014
Mycoplasma combined with other bacteria such as Salmonella, then infection is called CRD complex, which is generally take more time to treat with specific antibiotics. In this case i recommend tylosine both in feed and water + Amoxicillin through water for at least 7 days would help to combat CRD complex.
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Mike Gabler Mike Gabler
Veterinarian
December 23, 2014
Thank you everyone for all your comments!
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Santiago Sievert Garcia Santiago Sievert Garcia
Bachelor of Science in Animal Husbandry
January 29, 2015
I agree to the use of enrofloxacine to combat Mycoplasmas and salmonellas. First 48 hours of a chick's life will give the chicks a good start for later Salmonella and/or Mycoplasma challenge. But you should investigate how these microorganisms got into your flock. While Salmonellas are ubiquitous, these can be controlled through effective biosecurity measures, farm layouts (distance between adjacent houses), water treatment facilities, biosecurity on feed source and delivery, and personnel movement.
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Paul Kaggwa Paul Kaggwa
poultry health and diseases
January 29, 2015

I strongly agree. i tried it out fro the first 48 hours on two batches from MG +ve flocks. Both flock's tasted -ve on serologies.
Other customers placed on the dates tried feed treatments but this did not surpress symtoms
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Dr. Asif Javaid Dr. Asif Javaid
Marketing Manager at Ghazi Brothers
January 29, 2015
Go for tiamuline hydrogen fumarate water soluble along with florofenicol and after 5days of administration go for formic acid in water.
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Kabir Ahmed Chohan Kabir Ahmed Chohan
Consultant
January 30, 2015
Use tylosin and doxycycline according to weight of bird. + enrofloxaxin/cipro or tribrissin depending on.the history of antibiotic used in flock. To compensate respiration add aminophylline to compensate respiration. CFM to reduce toxicity and toxemia and vitamin C to strengthen the heart muscles and reducing the rate of as cites in flock.
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Oumed M Amin Oumed M Amin
Veterinary Doctor
January 30, 2015
First we must type the isolated salmonella spp if it poultry specific no problem otherwise the flock should be condemned as eggs are not suitable for human use!!
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Moreyra Villar Honorio Moreyra Villar Honorio
Veterinary Doctor
January 30, 2015
Considerando que es una infección crónica mixta con lesiones caseosas internas (Micoplasmosis + Salmonelosis + Colibacilosis), recomiendo inyectar por vía subcutánea, en el cuello, una solución a base de Tartrato de Tilosina + Sulfato de Gentamicina. Si persiste la mortalidad repetir la misma solución 7 días después. Le aseguro los resultados serán contundentes.
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January 31, 2015
I also agree with Dr.Garccia's opinion.This should be followed by Nucleotides through drinking water for two weeks to repair the damged cells and to develop strong immunity.
Dr.S.S.Chousalkar,Mumbai,India.
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Dr. Rakesh  Nimbalkar Dr. Rakesh Nimbalkar
Animal Nutritionist
January 31, 2015
In my opinion combination of gut actingantibiotic like levofloxacin and antibiotics which acts on alveolar level in lungs like tilmicosin along with gut acidifier can protect affected flock followed by course of pre and probiotics to establish beneficial microflora (Healthy microbial population )
Tiamulin Hydrogen fumarate works better as preventive medicine .
Thanks
With Regards
Dr Rakesh Nimbalkar
Polchem Hygiene Laboratories Private Limited
Pune - India
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Dr. Venkatachalam Ramaswamy Dr. Venkatachalam Ramaswamy
Veterinary Doctor
January 31, 2015
Complicated CRD usually do not respond to drugs if not initiated early. If the infections have been curtailed , better test the layers around a week before laying for both of these pathogenic bacteria , may be by Rapid palte agglutination test or by other suitable test. If found positive for Salmonella species that are communicable to man, start treating again as eggs may have Salmonella by vertical or even horizontal transmission
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January 31, 2015
With respect to all of your opinions I have different
first I am doubt about diagnosis because never mycoplasma Causing mortality 100 from 20000 birds per day
Salmonella also it is more important to know which salmonella
Is it enteritidis or pullorum , some serotypes eradication best solution but if just group c also will not cause such high mortality
Enrofloxacin products inhibited in most of the countries
So my advise to have more details of diagnosis
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ajoy chandra roy ajoy chandra roy
Bachelor of Science in Animal Husbandry (Hons)
February 1, 2015
in case of organic broiler production how can we minimize ecoli.salmonella and mycoplasma without antibiotic
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Juvy Lago Juvy Lago
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine
February 1, 2015
in case of organic chicken, building higher resistance is your only weapon since no antibiotics allowed. in my case i use probiotics with yeast Cw daily for few hours. of course follow strict biosecurity.
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February 2, 2015
To contain mortality first injection of amikacin and tylosin tartrate 2 shots followed by tiamulin @ 40 mg/kg B.wt.I doubt enrfloxacin will respond to this stage. Acidifer to be used both feed and water
Dr.Himanshu Kumar
GPM
Zydus AH
Ahmedabad
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